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 5-Dec-87 15:22:41-PST,26842;000000000001
Date: Sat 5 Dec 87 13:58:23-GMT
From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #101

Usenet Mac Digest     Saturday, December 5, 1987    Volume 3 : Issue 101

Today's Topics:
     Extending the keyboard cable, a summary
     memory bombs under multifinder
     how strong of a magnet?
     Re: Free system ugrade
     Arabic Wordprocessing / Publishing Software wanted
     Plotters -
     PCB design?
     Jasmine BackPac 40
     One Quick and Dumb ?
     Re: Spinning Watch Cursor
     Re: Spectrum card from SuperMac
     Re: Mac ][ Sound Samplers
     Rodime 140 meg drives
     More clipboard strangeness under MultiFinder
     Mac II Color Icons?
     using alternative desktops with new system
     Re: Mac magazine review continue
     Help with key1trans
     VersaTerm-Pro and MultiFinder
     A/UX how much and when??
     Re: how strong of a magnet?
     Re: One Quick and Dumb ?
     LSC fread limitation?
     Hayes + MacTerminal: 1.9 goes but 2.1 & 2.2 hang while dialing
     X Windows on Mac OS?
     Re: More clipboard strangeness under MultiFinder

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From: [e-mail] (Rob Bartel)
Subject: Extending the keyboard cable, a summary
Date: 30 Nov 87 19:25:40 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation, Beaverton Oregon

This is a, somewhat belated, summary of the response to my question
about a month ago about extending the keyboard cable on my 512e.  First,
uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!dorner sent me an  explanation of why the apple didnt
use the regular cable.
 ----------------------------------------------------------

Several companies advertised longer cables for the mac keyboards.  I
haven't looked recently, though.  You might check the ads in the back of
MacWorld.

Me, I intend to buy a regular phone handset cord, and
cut-strip-wrap-solder- tape away...

The reason apple didn't use a regular handset cord is that the wires are
not straight through.  No problem if you have just a mac and a keyboard,
but they used to sell a numeric keypad as well.  Using flipped
connectors would have required the user to hook up the cords to the
numeric keypad in part- icular positions--too much to expect of apple's
targeted market.

Steve
 ---------------------------------------------------------

Several people mentioned that BMUG has or had cables available

One person observed that there was a company named Tacklind Design Inc
that sold the cables. The cable business was sold,  however, to
Aesthetics Inc. 415-322-2257.  My call was taken by someone who told me
they were out right now but that he would call back when they were
available (which he indicated would be within a few days.)  I never
heard from him again. They wanted $15 for them.

Others suggested that I use a modular plug connector to hook the
standard cable with the keyboard cable.  This idea would work, but the
modular connector is for the wrong plug, of  course, and the connection
is tenuous.

What I wound up doing was buying on of those modular connector crimping
tools and cutting the ends off two headset cords, replacing them with
the modular connectors and connecting them with the inline coupler.

Many thanks to those of you who answered my query.
--
Rob Bartel
...!tektronix!sequent!mntgfx!robb

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: memory bombs under multifinder
Date: 1 Dec 87 05:21:14 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

Under multifinder, I've had a few different programs bomb, claiming they
needed more memory, when "About Finder" tells me there is more than
enough memory in the largest unused block.  e.g. trying to run the Tempo
installer, it asked for 300-some K, and about finder told me that there
was over 500K, but the installer still bombed.  What is going on and
what can I do about it?
--
thanks,
Margot Flowers   [e-mail]   ...!{ucbvax|ihnp4}!ucla-cs!flowers


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: how strong of a magnet?
Date: 1 Dec 87 05:30:04 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

Recently people suggested unformatting a floppy by using a magnet.  I
needed to do so, so used a donut magnet about 1 inch in diameter (don't
know the strength), and the floppys were readible just fine afterwards.
While I'm gratified to know that they aren't THAT vulnerable, I'm
wondering just how strong of a magnet is needed for this task.  (This
time I ended up formatting them on a PC to get the needed effect).
--
thanks,
Margot Flowers   [e-mail]   ...!{ucbvax|ihnp4}!ucla-cs!flowers


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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Re: Free system ugrade
Date: 1 Dec 87 04:08:32 GMT
Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd

Um, you didn't hear this from me, but a little birdie told me that Apple
IS setting up a developer support organization to handle the workstation
market.  And last I heard, they were looking for a few good tech support
people to staff it.

Of course, I was the one who told you folks the Open Mac had a VMEbus.
So perhaps this birdie was lying to me.... Then again, maybe not.

chuq
--
Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach            [e-mail]    Delphi: CHUQ


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From: [e-mail] (Bill.Stewart)
Subject: Arabic Wordprocessing / Publishing Software wanted
Date: 1 Dec 87 05:40:10 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Center 4613, Holmdel NJ

A friend of mine is looking for a computer system that will let him do
word-processing in Arabic and English, as well as miscellaneous
accounting and such.  He doesn't currently have any hardware, so he can
be pretty flexible; I'm guessing that a Macintosh+Laserwriter or
PC/AT+LaserJet will probably be used. (He's not a computer person, so
the Mac will probably be easier to use.)

What software packages are available?  How is printer-driver support?
How well does it integrate with other software?
--
#                Thanks;
# Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs 2G218, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs


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From: [e-mail] (William C. Bauldry)
Subject: Plotters -
Date: 1 Dec 87 15:51:57 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service


 Has anyone hooked a Watanaba plotter to a Mac; i.e. where can I look
for a driver for this beast?? (as we say in Spanish) mulched grass...
bill


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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Betzis)
Subject: PCB design?
Date: 30 Nov 87 11:57:37 GMT
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.


    Are there any intelligent Printed Circuit Board design/ drafting
programmes for the Mac. I have fought with QuickCircuit and PC CAD but
neither are a charm to use - it's quicker using a drawing programme.

Thanks & :-) andrew betzis

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From: [e-mail] (Cliff Loucks)
Subject: Jasmine BackPac 40
Date: 30 Nov 87 16:42:33 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1411, Albq, NM

Recently there were some generally favorable comments here concerning
the SCSI drives available from Jasmine.  But, as I recall, the comments
concerned only the Direct Drive series.  I am interested in the BackPac
40, mostly due to it's physical size and location, as well as no fan
noise.

If anyone has any experience with the BackPac 40s, I would greatly
appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks.

--
Cliff Loucks   [gatech | ucbvax]!unmvax!sandia!intvax!loucks
Sandia National Labs, Albuquerque, New Mexico

Poor New Mexico;  So far from Heaven, and so close to Texas.


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From: [e-mail] (The Druid)
Subject: One Quick and Dumb ?
Date: 1 Dec 87 19:39:24 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA.

  I have always wanted to write an application that does not use
  the menu bar but instead DRAW USING THE FULL MAC SCREEN including
  where the menu bar is.  I have tried to do this but I have not
  succeeded.  This cannot be that hard at all!  I have copybits regions
  where the menubar has been.

  Well, simply -- How do you write an application that uses the FULL
  mac screen.  (pretty Dumb Question, huh?)

  -- The Druid ([e-mail])


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From: [e-mail] (Eric K. Olson)
Subject: Re: Spinning Watch Cursor
Date: 1 Dec 87 20:44:27 GMT
Organization: Lexington Software Design

You will also find a resource type "acur" which specifies the ID #s of
the cursors.  Format is:

 word    number of cursors
 word    0
 word    id
 word    0
 word    id
 word    0
 ...

The default acur contains the following:

 00080000 01000000
 01010000 01020000
 01030000 01040000
 01050000 01060000
 01070000

The lastest ResEdit contains a TMPL for this resource (version 1.1b3).

-Eric
--
                                 I am not affiliated.
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   (Name)                (ArpaNet)                 (UseNet)        (AppleLink)


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From: [e-mail] (Julian Vrieslander)
Subject: Re: Spectrum card from SuperMac
Date: 1 Dec 87 20:20:11 GMT
Organization: Cornell Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Marc
Kaufman) writes:
>I am looking for some information about the Spectrum video card for the
>Mac II.  Not surprisingly, SuperMac, the distributor, can not answer my
>questions.  Can one (or more) of you?:
>
>1. The box says that the board operates at 640x480 and 1024x768, changeable
>   in software.  None of the demo units I have seen has such a software
>   switch.  Is there one?

If there is such software, it did not come in with the Spectrum card
that I bought, nor is it mentioned in the doco (Spectrum User Manual,
beta draft I).

>2. What is the Horizontal Scan rate?  I may want to use my own monitor.
>   The box says that several scan rates are provided.  Is this true?

Direct quote from the Spectrum manual: "If your non-SuperMac monitor has
the same timing specs as the Spectrum monitor, you can plug directly
into the video board."  No mention of several scan rates.  The spec
sheet for the 19" Sony monitor that SuperMac sells includes the
following specs:

   Deflection frequency - horizontal: 63.34/48.8 kHz
                        - vertical: 59.98/60.0 Hz

>3. Every demo unit I have seen, using the SuperMac monitor, has an annoying
>   vertical artifact, consisting of purple lines, when a uniform gray
>   background is selected.  This is possibly due to EMI, but it is

I suspect that this is a Moire-like interference pattern between the
dots in the gray pattern and the spacing of the openings in the
monitor's shadow mask.  If you don't like it, try another desktop
pattern.

Mild flame: although I have been quite happy with a number of SuperMac
products, and satisfied with their support, they have recently played a
bit loose with their advertising and promotion.  Maybe I am picking nits
here, but there have been a couple of advertised features that failed to
show up in the Spectrum card.  In addition to the above examples, my
board cannot handle 4-bit color, even though the lit says it can, and
the promise of a cheap GenLock upgrade has been reconsidered.  It will
be an EXPENSIVE upgrade, since the desgners found out there was more
involved in the implementation that they initially realized.  There is a
free ROM upgrade on the way which is alleged to cure the 4-bit color
problem, and maybe some of the other discrepancies between product and
specs.  It sounds like the urge to outspec the competition induced them
to release the card before all the  advertised features had been
implemented and/or debugged.
--
Julian Vrieslander    [phone]
Neurobiology & Behavior, W250 Mudd Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853
UUCP: {cmcl2,decvax,rochester,uw-beaver,ihnp4}!cornell!batcomputer!eacj
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Mac ][ Sound Samplers
Date: 1 Dec 87 19:52:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kelton Flinn) writes:
>   I bought the Impulse sampler about a month ago. It comes with 2
>versions of the software, one labeled as for the Mac II. Although I
>haven't done any recording on the Mac II, the software does run on the
>II and edits and plays sounds fine. I assume it records properly also.

I just got Impulse and haven't had much time to really play with it, but
it does record and play correctly on a Mac II.  The only problem is that
the "Scope" function doesn't work right in more than 1 bit color or
gray-scale mode (the trace is scrunched up to the top of the display).
--
Edward Moy
Academic Computing Services
University of California
Berkeley, CA  94720

[e-mail]
ucbvax!violet!edmoy


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From: [e-mail] (Phil Hunt)
Subject: Rodime 140 meg drives
Date: 1 Dec 87 16:12:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

>On 26 Nov 87, Luke G. Matthys states:
>Does anyone have any experience with the Rodime RX1000 (100 Meg) or
>RX1400 (140 Meg) internal disk drives for the Mac SE and Mac II?  I've
>been thinking about buying one and would appreciate your comments.
>
>thanks...
>--
>Luke G. Matthys

Yes, I have been using a Rodime RX1400 in my Mac II for some time now.
PCPC uses them in the IHD144 drive of theirs.  It works great!!!

BTW, I am selling mine now (with controller and 80 meg of PD software)
for  $2400 or Best offer.  I have gotten a larger drive.
--
Phil Hunt
603-884-4820


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Lipa)
Subject: More clipboard strangeness under MultiFinder
Date: 1 Dec 87 22:09:07 GMT

Here is a small Lightspeed Pascal program which demonstrates the
problems I am having getting MultiFinder to recognize that I have
changed the contents of the clipboard:
--
program testClipboard;
 var
  thePicture : PicHandle;
  bounds : Rect;
  pictureSize : Size;
  result : longint;

begin
 SetRect(bounds, 0, 0, 100, 100);
 ClipRect(bounds);
 thePicture := OpenPicture(bounds);
 MoveTo(0, 0);
 LineTo(100, 100);
 ClosePicture;
 HLock(Handle(thePicture));
 pictureSize := GetHandleSize(Handle(thePicture));
 result := ZeroScrap;
 if result = NoErr then
  begin
   result := PutScrap(pictureSize, 'PICT', Ptr(thePicture^));
   if result = NoErr then
    result := LoadScrap;
  end;
 HUnlock(Handle(thePicture));
 KillPicture(thePicture);
end.

This is probably the simplest program possible which puts anything into the
clipboard, but it does not work with MultiFinder. It DOES work will all other
systems that I tried it on, including System 4.2 running without the
MultiFinder. Tracing through the program under MultiFinder with LSP (a risky
proposition, admittedly) revealed that the clipboard routines did not report
an error. In fact, the clipboard was updated inside LSP, but once I quit back
to the Finder, the clipboard reverted to its old state. Is this my error or
some devious bug?

Bill Lipa
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Harrow, NCSE BXB1-2/E02 DTN=293-5128)
Subject: Mac II Color Icons?
Date: 1 Dec 87 20:22:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

So far,  the  only color icon that I've seen on the Mac II is the one on
the  default  "Welcome  to Macintosh" dialog box at system startup time.

It's my impression that ANY icon on the desktop (or used within a
program) can also be a color icon, but has anyone come up with an editor
that will create/edit such color icons?

Thanks,

Jeff Harrow
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: using alternative desktops with new system
Date: 1 Dec 87 21:13:07 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

MacCalligraphy comes with a customized system, where folders are
"treasure boxes" and the desktop is a Japanese room scene.
Unfortunately, the system is an older system.  Is there a way to cause
this alternative desktop background and maybe even the alternative icons
to be used by my current system (currently multifinder).
--
thanks,
Margot Flowers   [e-mail]   ...!{ucbvax|ihnp4}!ucla-cs!flowers


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Mac magazine review continue
Date: 1 Dec 87 23:12:30 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Marsh Gosnell) writes:
>... The sad part
>of all this is that Icon Review has reportedly cleaned up their act and has

I wonder how recently those standards were supposed to take effect? Two
weeks ago, I had one of their sales people tell me that Word Finder was
in stock.  He sounded like such a sleeze used-car salesman type that I
didn't want to order from him for fears of having the order messed up
("Sure it's in stock.  Now, let me look, what was it you were interested
in again?").  So I hung up and called up again, the next person told me
it was out of stock and there was a waiting list.  Of course maybe the
second was wrong and the first was correct, but ...

One difference between mail order places which are honest and reliable
and those which aren't might be the issue of commission.  The first
sleaze salesman was so insistant on my knowing his name (which I'm
including in a letter I'm sending them) made me suspect that they worked
on commission.  The second one confirmed that they did when I asked him.
 By contrast, the person I spoke to most recently at MacConnection told
me they did NOT work on commission and seemed surprised at even the
idea.

Margot Flowers   [e-mail]
...!{ucbvax|ihnp4}!ucla-cs!flowers


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From: [e-mail] (Lance Nakata)
Subject: Help with key1trans
Date: 1 Dec 87 23:30:23 GMT
Organization: Academic Information Resources, Stanford University

We're writing a German language drill in Hypercard.  For the duration of
the drill, we'd like the keyboard to behave like a German keyboard.
Supposedly, we can do this using the trap key1trans (29E).
Unfortunately, we can't find any documentation on key1trans.  Has anyone
ever used it?  Does anyone know how it's used, or where it may have been
discussed (MacTutor, Tech Notes)?  Any and all help would be
appreciated.

Thanks..... replies to me here or to [e-mail].

Lance Nakata


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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Marko)
Subject: VersaTerm-Pro and MultiFinder
Date: 1 Dec 87 13:55:55 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ

Now that MultiFinder and the new System software is widely  available
many of us on the Net are starting to observe some "peculiarities" with
various applications.  Just thought I'd pass one along and hopefully
save people a phone call.

VersaTerm-Pro stores all its screen data in RAM, and hence can be a real
memory hog (although it sure updates a screen fast!). If, when running
under MultiFinder, you do not increase VT-Pro's memory partition (using
the Get Info box), it will automatically  scale the graphics screen size
to the largest possible with  the default memory settings, which is much
less than the full  screen size for the larger Mac II monitors. If
you've got the memory, just play around with the defaults until you give
the  program enough to fill your screen (as a guide, with a  19", 8-bit
color monitor, this requires over 1.25MBytes!).    Hope this wasn't
already obvious to everyone, since I was  thinking of submitting it to
MacUser's Tips column!:) (see "Moron's on the Loose").
--
Kurt Marko
{ihnp4,ulysses,...your_fav_gateway}!aluxz!krm


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From: [e-mail] (David Williams)
Subject: A/UX how much and when??
Date: 2 Dec 87 02:07:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

Does anyone have any idea just how much A/UX is going to cost? Inquiring
minds and inquisitive managers want to know! Or even when it is going to
be  released?


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From: [e-mail] (Dean Benz)
Subject: Re: how strong of a magnet?
Date: 2 Dec 87 01:32:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

I personally have 2 four inch diameter x 1 inch thich Speaker magnets
that I use to "unformat disks". It does seem to take quite a bit of
effort to convince the mac the disk is completely unreadable. I tried
using a cassete deck demagnetizer a few times but was unable to make the
disk completely unreadable.  The big magnets do quite a nice job and are
readily available? (Know anyone who has recently blown a home or car
speaker, ask them for the dead one and pry the magnet off the back.)
Good Luck.
                            Dean Benz

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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Re: One Quick and Dumb ?
Date: 2 Dec 87 04:35:57 GMT
Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd

I wouldn't recommend this, as it will cause the application to break
under Multifinder. Everything that I've got on my system that attempts
to grab the menubar blows up when I'm running under multifinder
(including SuperPaint 1.0p in full screen mode). The system really,
really wants the menubar there.
--
Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach            [e-mail]    Delphi: CHUQ


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Czeiszperger)
Subject: LSC fread limitation?
Date: 2 Dec 87 03:23:21 GMT
Organization: College of the Arts Computer Lab, OSU

This is a continuation of my problem with reading entire files into
memory.  The following command:

 unsigned char buffer[300*512];
 FILE *fp;

 fread(buffer,sizeof(char),300*512,fp);


... always reads in only 44 blocks, even though the file in question
contains no resources, and is over 300k in size.  The fread should read
until the end of file, set the EOF flag, and then return the number of
bytes read.  It always returns the number 44*512... Does anyone have any
idea why?

Any help would be appreciated..

--mike
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Wilkinson)
Subject: Hayes + MacTerminal: 1.9 goes but 2.1 & 2.2 hang while dialing
Date: 1 Dec 87 20:41:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand

We have a Hayes-compatible modem which runs ok using MacTerminal 1.9 but
hangs when we use MacTerminal 2.1 or 2.2. Does anyone know about this
problem and/or have any ideas/solutions? Thanks in advance. Please reply
via email as I don't usually read this newsgroup.
--
Ed Wilkinson  ...!uunet!vuwcomp!edward  or  [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (David Williams)
Subject: X Windows on Mac OS?
Date: 2 Dec 87 02:34:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

Are there any plans to allow X windows to be run on the Mac OS side of
the Mac II now that the Ethertalk board is shipping? It would be
extremely nice to be able to use the mac as an Xterminal display server.
This would allow Apple  to come out with a II with fewer slots and lower
cost that could be an X workstation, without the overhead of Unix. I
have heard about the 2 companies porting news to the Mac, but it was
unclear if they were targeting A/UX as the run time environment and if
it was limited to the Mac II platform.

Of course Sun, NeXt, Hp and Dec probably would not like this idea too
much.


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: More clipboard strangeness under MultiFinder
Date: 2 Dec 87 18:08:17 GMT
Organization: Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer

I think Tech Note 180 has the answer.  It says: "Multifinder 1.0 keeps
separate scrap variables for each partition. Multifinder only checks to
see whether or not to increment the other partition' scrapCounts in
response to a user-initiated Cut or Copy.  To do this it watches the
SystemEdit call to determine whether an official Cut or Copy has been
issued."

This means that your picture is going into the clipboard, but
Multifinder is not telling the other applications about it.

I think the solution would be to call SystemEdit with a parameter of 3
(=Copy); as long as your application window is frontmost, SystemEdit
will return FALSE (it won't tell a DA to do the Copy), but Multifinder
will think that a Copy has been done.

I don't have any documentation that indicates whether this is the
"right" thing to do.  I thought that I had read something about this,
but now I can't find the referenc.

--
Larry Rosenstein

Object Specialist
Apple Computer

AppleLink: Rosenstein1
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